| jaromil on Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:41:38 +0100 (CET) |
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hi James,
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 02:57:21PM +0000, James Wallbank wrote:
> Perhaps a way to ensure that consumers understand "the deal" with
> online privacy would be to institute a "Law of Symmetrical Privacy"
> - in broad terms, data collectors would have to offer, or withhold,
> data equally to all markets - individuals as well as government and
> business. So, if Facebook said that they wouldn't share their email
> address with other users, they would be obliged equally NOT to share
> your email address with businesses or institutions. If a business
> disclosed that they might sell your details to another business,
> then they would be required also to offer your email address for
> sale to other individuals (proportionately priced, of course - a
> single email address might just cost a few pennies).
>
> How would you feel about that?
I'd personally feel very bad and the reason is best argumented by: a
recent lecture prof. Eben Moglen gave at ISOC-NYC, 1h long and worth
http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338
from which an interesting quote:
"Licenses are not the answers to social problems. I speak as a guy
who cares a lot about softwre licenses. But I tell you again,
licenses are the constitutions of software communities, and they
solve problems inside the communities. They are not tools whose
primary benefit is to be found in their external consequences."
makes me come in mind a paper by prof. Elen Nissenbaum that was
presented in the Ars Electronica symposium GOODBYE PRIVACY in 2007:
"Privacy as Contextual Integrity"
http://crypto.stanford.edu/portia/papers/RevnissenbaumDTP31.pdf
> This "leveling" or "equaling" of the transaction would make it much
> easier for consumers to correctly perceive what privacy they were
> yielding up when interacting with an online service.
I think that is easy enough now. Citizens and creatives do perceive
the lack of privacy, they just don't see yet all consequences to come
and not even the ruling cast (ops, is it more polite to say "policy
makers"?) sees it.
OTOH opening such a market to private interests (partially true
already for Facebook et similia) will definitely place Mafia-like
"bisniss" into a better position to operate.
As of economic models, I suggest you flip your line of thought and
start thinkering over an "economy of mistery" - funny enough, a term
circulating among Neo-Platonists and Gnostics, later swapped into
"mistery of economy" to serve theologists better....
ciao
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